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Has anyone found it difficult when you are with people and the only way they know how to communicate is by gossiping? Sometimes I try to change the subject but somehow or another it always seems to go back to gossip. I always end up being the one that never talks.
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Re: Impeccability...
Sat, March 24, 2007 - 7:52 AMtry asking what value they place in gossip ... wouldn't that be an act of impeccability of word? -
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Re: Impeccability...
Sat, March 24, 2007 - 8:50 PMGossip is really a difficult issue. Gossip is a very common way of communicating for most people. It's how many people relate to other people.
We often use gossip as a way of gaining agreement for our stories and as a way of getting attention, two things we humans can't seem to get enough of.
I've been in a situation where I spoke up in a group setting and called attention to the gossip. It did not go well, a few appreciated it, most did not. I realized if they don't have the agreement personally to not to gossip it does not make a long term difference and it's not a way to make friends.
As time has gone on in my personal growth and transformation I have found that I have attracted new friends into my life that don’t gossip as much and who are more aware of the power of their words.
Having said that, I find myself still engaging in gossip at times even though I know the challenge it presents. Like I said, it’s a difficult issue.
Thank you for posting the question, it gave me an opportunity to look again at how much I still gossip.
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Re: Impeccability...
Mon, April 2, 2007 - 12:22 AMi make a distinction between gossip and speaking with my informal families. even tho i honor what the Toltec say about the problem of gossiping. If i am with my informal families, for instance, then when i am speaking with them it is not "gossip" it is important, even crucial communication. It is care. It is care seeking to enhance, since i realize the value.
Thinking about this, i have to wonder if "gossip" is meaningful communication in seed.
--Since there is that intuitive inclination to *want* to speak (caring to speak as opposed to *not giving a flying fu--*). Yet in the context of being brought up in a society which keeps its members superficially-oriented (and thus separated--as much as possible-- from our powers), there has been a poisoning effect, thanks to domestication.
...so with this in mind, i tend to want to *complement* gossiping by adding to it in meaningful ways; such as possibly pointing out that we are making communities amongst each other *whenever we want*; and the more heavenish we put in, the more heavenish may well reflect back. (i use the word "heavenish" in the broadest sense of the word, not controlled by dogma, but by our individual inclinations)
So, i wonder about how to inspire within the gossipers a movement (or "arting") away from putting poison in (a "normal" reflection of we programmed in the context of alienation war-minded society), and instead depositing heavenish kinds of inputs; or at least authenticity. Towards this enhancement and inspiring meaning.
As far as actually articulating this, i would think the angle would be talking towards others on the terms that we are power, that we have powers that we've been led to believe we don't have. i suspect such an angle would interest quite a few people; tho i suspect many different approaches would have to be made in order to interest *many* people, as opposed to perhaps only a few we ourselves may influence (due to our comparitively "strange" spiritual approaches).
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Re: Impeccability...
Tue, April 3, 2007 - 5:18 AMIt's amazing how powerful the word is.
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Wed, March 28, 2007 - 6:07 AMWhenever I have brought attention to what is going on usually the music stops and I'm put on the spot. Sometimes I can find the energy in the conversation and flip it but sometimes people flip it back unknowningly. Does that make sense? Whatever. -
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Re: Impeccability...
Wed, March 28, 2007 - 11:31 AMSomething that has worked for me is to simply say "I don't want to gossip." I say it in a non-judgemental way and make it my will and no one elses.
One of my good friends told me just last week that I inspired her to not gossip so much...WOW was that nice to hear! Especially since we both used to be gossip queens.
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Wed, November 19, 2008 - 10:45 PMI work hand in hand with a gossip master. Always dumping his opinion of others on me much like I'm doing to you now. Hmm. Anyhow Before becomeing aware of the power of the word I would participate. Now that I have stopped this with him (for the most part) I feel like telling him I don't want to do it any longer would be like telling him I don't like him. In actuality I do except this trait. So my dilema is that in practiceing not gossiping and impecability of my word is very uncomfortable in that situation and draws me back into participateing in the dream of the planet. I have definately gotten better with this yet would like any helpfull ideas or thoughts around this. Thank you. -
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Re: Impeccability...
Thu, November 20, 2008 - 6:48 AMFor me, gossip is like sharing a story.
I make an effort to not use names in my stories or not real names.
I also point this out in my stories. It is a small statement about gossip.
I try to not add to any story about someone. I can start a new story that is not about anyone known. Most of my friends know that I do not tell stories about people they know.
It is a small step for me.
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Re: Impeccability...
Thu, November 20, 2008 - 8:33 AMMy partner has a beautiful way of disarming harmful gossip. He simply says something to the effect of "do you know how it is to walk in their shoes? Who are we to judge?" Stops me in my tracks every time. Most others as well. And most respect him for being loving and accepting. It helps me stay on track when I get caught up in the silly chatter of belittling/gossiping about another....
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