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i don't want to say a lot tonite even tho usually i'm totally verbose. But i've been meaning to say that i've been having a very hard time with the agreements even tho i found them working for a time. i wonder if it's lack of community in which to share. i mean, text community is something very different than actual human beings to look at and share with, you know?
And i wonder if focusing on those four things has a way of becoming something negative, at least for me. i mean, the more i focus on something *not* to do, the more i think about those things and the more i seem to replicate them.
Hm?
And i wonder if focusing on those four things has a way of becoming something negative, at least for me. i mean, the more i focus on something *not* to do, the more i think about those things and the more i seem to replicate them.
Hm?
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Fri, May 12, 2006 - 7:52 AMAbraham/Hicks says to focus on what NOT to do is to draw that very thing you don't want to you. The trick is to focus on what you do want to do or what you do want--as having already doing it, achieving it or having it. Otherwise, if you focus on wanting something to happen, you will be in a constant state of wanting.
Be in a constant state of BEing. BE impeccable with your word (again, this is more about what you speak and think about yourself rather than just others). BE self assured/confident (rather than don't take things personally). BE the best that you can. BE positive, decisive, proactive, inquisitive and open minded (rather than don't make assumptions).
In other words, walk your talk. It has nothing to do with people around you. The Four Agreements is operating in a manner despite the people around you. -
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Fri, May 12, 2006 - 5:14 PMfinding community is important, but, building community can be so much fun, growing your community from the inside out, manifesting like minded people, cuz they're really the only ones who'll get you! walking your talk, will begin to manifest the support you desire ... good wishes to you ... don't fret, trust you're present moment will create your future reality! don't worry the soil or dig up the seeds, to see if they're sprouting ... and don't give up, by all means, it'll never satisfy you, anyway ... there's no going back from a life based in integrity, nothing else will do!
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Mon, May 15, 2006 - 7:36 PMIf you live the Agreements, you will change your life into something you want it to be. Community will grow around you, as more people see what you are doing, and the positive changes you are making in your life. Are there people you know, who might benefit from reading The Four Agreements? Gift them a copy, and then discuss it with them....voila! Instant community.
I've noticed that sometimes it feels a bit isolating to be very Four Agreements, but then I look around and realize that other people seem to be very UNhappy, and I am very HAPPY..... and then it doesn't feel quite as lonely. :-) -
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Wed, May 24, 2006 - 6:31 PMi've been such a nomad/refugee for the last, uh, 10 (?) years now that i guess a lot of my desires to find something already going on are because i've been so "fast on my feet". But here's an anecdote:
i move around, nomadically, seeding visions & extended family!
And o'course, such haz its challenges.
It jus takes ability to see dat, take a step back, and hear and listen to what all o y'all are sharing! Thanque you so much! All of you!
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Tue, May 16, 2006 - 6:18 AMAre you replicating or are you becoming aware? First we become aware of all the ways in which we use the word against ourselves and others, the ways in which we don't honor our agreements, the ways in which we fall short of doing our best, and the ways in which we take things personally. We see how these things affect us and others. As we gain personal power we can change these things, but most of us don't have the personal power to change everything at once. It's cummulative.
You CAN do this without community, face to face or otherwise. Step into your power. Believe.
The only thing community can provide is unbending intent. You have to do the work yourself. Draw upon the strength of those who walk the path with you and those who have gone before you. You may not see us, but we are there with you.
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scout!
Wed, May 24, 2006 - 6:41 PMi do thanque you scout! i do!
i do thinq of theez truths and i do and hav known them (yes!), the thing is, i tend to (ooo this is deep and good for me right now)... get so easily caught up in worry and loneliness---at least for humans who know and trust me --and are committed to real (consciously or not!).
It's just when i'm moving around, living the wayz i do, that it's so damn easy to...well, you get the picture.
(i must say one thing tho, um...sidetracked just now...oh yes, the word "believe". i've been thinking about this since a guy named John Trudell has been inspiring me to think about it...i.e. the word has a lie in the middle. No, but i hear what you're getting at! Yes! Stepping into my power. Like when i give intended gifts to the wild and not-so-wild critters around me. Like an apple core (i usually eat them) to a Great Horned Squirrel (he he) and my piss (ahem) to a tree and spiders with webs on the tree, and dog treats to dogs that are screaming from behind tall walls. Yeah, i hear you!
It's just i guess the situation of being surrounded by the illusory values of people all around *appearing* to being real with each other, and i find myself thrown off.
But i'm "about to" (probably) go on a major physical/psychological challenge for the summer (with intent to enhance a vision i have as well as try to figure out whether i want to go full-time disconnected from "society" or get a damn overthetable job). Yeah, i know some would say i'm talking too much about this, but hey, not really.
Any insights cared to share are highly welcome.
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Sat, June 3, 2006 - 8:18 PMsomething that they dont mention in the 4 agreements that applies, because it is based on thoughts, wants, desires, and attention is that
"if your lifestile and surroundings contridict what you want, it wont come to you"
meaning that if you want to be impecable with your word..it is quite a feat to do it surrounded by people who dont
while on the other side of things
"surrounding yourself with creative expressions and thoughts of what you want,
inspires thoughts and feelings to acheive what you want effertlessly and easily....the universe and land of the mind is abundant with everything you could want, need, and desire" -
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Sat, June 3, 2006 - 9:26 PMIsn't this shirking responsibility?
"I can't be impeccable because you aren't."
Not sure if you're saying this or if you're saying impeccability entails removing yourself from situations in which you find yourself compromised (or not entering into situations that may be compromising). -
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Sun, June 4, 2006 - 1:11 AMno...im not talking about others in those statments......but if you dont create a lifestile for yourself to effortlessly apply the 4 agreements and others of your choseing, then it is a constent battle to bring yourself to where you want to be.....it's the long hard route.....like attracts and if your attracting people that dont brighten your day....it's you..not them that is doing something wrong.....and if your surrounded by people that have energy that oppose what you want...try drawing pics and writeing about what you want and post it in your car..at the job...and in your room to creatively bring your attention where you want it
"All that we are is the result of what we have thought"
"attitude of gratitude brings more good things, thoughts, feelings, into your life"
"man becomes what he thinks about"
"inner happyness is the fuel of sucsess"
"follow your bliss and the universe will open doors where there were only walls"
just a couple of the quotes i've found to keep my attention in the right places with happy food for thought=)
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Sun, June 4, 2006 - 7:29 AMQuote: "if your attracting people that dont brighten your day....it's you..not them that is doing something wrong."
I think you're right here, but within this is a slight nuance I think most tend to miss.
Here you say: if you dont create a lifestile for yourself ..., then it is a constent battle to bring yourself to where you want to be.
This is also true. It applies not just to thoughts and feelings, but action and words as well. If you say to yourself, "I don't like hanging around these people." are you not going against your word if you continue to hang around them? Your heart, your body, your mind and your words may all be in alignment, but if your actions are not in alignment, are you doing your best? Are you being impeccable with your word?
Ruiz talks a lot about the judge and the victim in the book. I think we sensitive types take the 'judging' role to heart, meaning this: If we find ourselves in a situation in which we are uncomfortable, say because someone is gossiping, we say to ourselves, "Stop being judgemental." and we work on being more open and accepting. I think this is a fatal flaw. This is taking the world personally.
If we examine ourselves further we find that although we don't like the behavior and maybe we even say something about the behavior, we fail to take action not becaue we are judging them, but because we are judging ourselves. We tell ourselves, "I am a bad person for not wanting to be around this person." or, "It's mean to not be accepting." In the end, however, who is to say that we must tolerate everyone's bad behavior?
So, you're right. Something is 'wrong' with the person in this scenario. Not taking action creates the long hard route. You can wait around and hope the universe removes the obstacle from your path, but how much effort, pain and hardship must you endure in the mean time? Slowly we fall into the role of the victim.
If you find yourself surrounded by people who oppose what you want, people who sabbotage you, people who make attainment of your goals more difficult, then you can offer gratitude to them for helping you get clear on what it is you DO want (your dream) and what you DON'T want (their b.s.) - remove yourself, or if required, say goodbye and move on.
Get clear within yourself and take action.
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Re: i've had a really hard time following
Wed, August 23, 2006 - 1:30 PMI'm hearing you, scout, and Ishi, thank yOu!
Scout, I'm wondering about this way in which we "slowly" go to becoming a victim. I'm wondering about the idea of passivity while others sabotage. I'm wondering if "sabotagers" are actually deep, authentic challengers in dragon clothing. And whether solving their puzzles may actually be something excellent to pursue --depending on the depth of the wisdom/seeing we dare to seek.
It seems to me that when we surround ourselves with Nice, "positive" people who are always that way, they aren't really, all the time; how can anyone be? Even Ruiz admits that he's not "perfect"; so i'm inclined towards the angle of "perfectly imperfect" and looking for the beautiful Swan hiding so often in ugly ducklings.
More thoughts? Or did i miss your ideas completely?
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